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by Ana Lopez

Welcome back to Equity, the podcast about the startup business, where we unravel the numbers and nuances behind the headlines. As promised, I will be taking over Equity Monday early this year as Alex is on paternity leave. Big hugs to his growing family!

We start the year with a lot of post-PTO energy because I don’t know how to do it any other way. This is what we chatted:

  • Tesla missed expectations, Meta does its “let’s just acquire smart talent” thing, and a debut in the S&P 500 that caught my attention.
  • A big idea that is doing the rounds at Matrix. TC’s Paul Sawers explores how messaging apps can become more interoperable thanks to a fascinating new protocol. To me, this screams the ideas of crypto decentralization last year, but with a more understandable pitch. Catch me hitting you on WhatsApp!
  • Finally, we end this week with a preview of CES. We’ve got reporters on the ground capturing the moonshots, and we’ll have updates for you on Friday with the full crew!

More to come! You can follow me on Twitter @nmasc_ or on Instagram @natashathereporter.

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